14th and Broadway
by zunguzungu
You might find it a bit confusing trying to keep track of the different times the Oakland Police department used tear gas on peaceful protesters yesterday. In the morning, they raided the Occupy Oakland camp and destroyed everything the occupiers had built, as I wrote about yesterday (and you can see video of that here).
But then, in the afternoon, this march gathered at the Oakland public library at 4 and proceeded to march back towards Frank Ogawa/Oscar Grant Plaza. In response, OPD declared the protest to be an unlawful assembly, gave us 5 minutes to disperse, and then attacked the crowd with tear gas, flash grenades, and rubber bullets. I was there until that point, and I can testify that it was a peaceful march until the police attacked it.
If you read an account of the march like this one — or listen to the Oakland Police Chief here — you will get the impression that the crowd was the aggressor (“Occupy Oakland demonstrators clashed…with police” and that “The demonstrators sparred”) and that “[OPD] had to deploy gas in order to stop the crowd and people from pelting us with bottles and rocks and…chemical agents that were thrown at the officers.” It’s very hard to see everything that is happening in a huge crowd like that, so the Oakland police chief may well be telling the truth when he says that his officers were “pelted by paint and a chemical irritant” But whether or not his officers were hit with paint — and even if that justifies what happened next — it has nothing to do with how or why the OPD (and officers from every police department in the area) first used the kind of force they did, when they did.
When a thousand people marched first from the library to the detention facility at 7th and Washington (where the 70 or so occupiers that were arrested that morning were being held), we were met with tear gas for the first time (and billy clubs). Then, when we turned back towards Frank Ogawa/Oscar Grant Plaza, we were again hit with tear gas at the intersection of Broadway and 14th.
If you look at these pictures I posted yesterday, you’re seeing the crowd. The first and second were taken before the first round of tear gas, and the third and fourth pictures were taken only one block from Frank Ogawa/Oscar Grant plaza, where the police announced on a bullhorn that it was an unlawful assembly, they would use gas to disperse us, and that we would be subject to injury if we stayed. They said this very clearly — and I saw the front line very clearly at this point — well before the crowd had done anything but take over the intersection. And then the police did exactly what they said they would do. They were not reacting to anything other than the presence of a very large and angry crowd of protesters, who were at that point simply present. They said that if the crowd did not disperse, they would use force to disperse it, and they made good on their promise.
At that point, I have no idea what happened, because I left. The crowd left 14th and Broadway and began marching to Snow Park (whose occupation had also been raided by the police that morning); I figured that was the end of it and went home to eat and post pictures. At Snow Park, it seems, the general assembly decided to return to Oscar Grant plaza and then they did. But this video accurately represents exactly what happened from my perspective up until that point: the police warned an otherwise peaceful demonstration that it was illegal, and they would use “chemical agents” to make them disperse.
Most of the most violent footage you will see comes from after this point; things got so much worse after I left, that the very mild tear gassing the first two times are not worth reporting on very much. This sort of thing went on for hours:
Moreover, they just happened to begin firing tear gas into the crowd, the third time, right after the two major media outlets that were covering it with live feeds turned off their cameras (as I can verify because I was watching those feeds from the safety of my living room while following the twitter feeds of people like @garonsen and @susie_c). And that coincidence was quite a coincidence. ABC and CBS later claimed their helicopters had to refuel, and they did show footage from later. But what a coincidence that they happened to both turn off their cameras just before the police attacked? That their helicopters ran out of gas at precisely the same time, that time?
You can get a more complete rundown from Mother Jones, who had some great people there. Oakland North had great coverage. And TheLede has a good round up, as does Greg Mitchell.
But the most important point, I think, is this: when we left the Oakland Public Library, the last speaker’s last words (after making as clear as possible to the crowd that we were marching to liberate Oscar Grant plaza from massed riot cops, and telling people who couldn’t be down for that to stay at the library) were something along the lines of “No matter what happens, this is only the beginning of a long struggle.” At the time, I was worried. He said that after this march, we should meet at 14th and Broadway every day at six p.m., from now on, and take “whatever space we can.” But before the police tear gassed a non-violent protest, I was not confident that this thing would continue, was worried that today would be not the beginning but the ending. It didn’t seem like much of a strategy, and without the camp to give the movement a center, well, I was worried. “Whatever space we can” is not likely to be much. But now, who knows? I’m ready to occupy some space. So I’ll see you at 14th and Broadway, today at six.
Wow. Thanks for the first-hand perspective. I appreciate knowing that this hasn’t slowed you or other protesters down and that you’re heading back out…
The thing that I am simply amazed about is how little coverage this is all getting in the mainstream media!
The worst thing is that in the little coverage it is getting (in London for example) the media is beginning to call these global protests, “anti-capitalism protests”. This annoys me because it takes away from the message… That we need banking and monetary reform. Governments should take back the power to issue money and not let private banks have the power to create money out of thin air and then loan it to governments. This is not anti-capitalism. I am pro-capitalism but I am tired of our taxes paying interest on money that that the government didn’t need to borrow in the first place.
You’re pretty detached from reality. The governments have spent money they don’t have for decades. You’re blaming the banks for that? Are you crazy?
How do you think Germany has breached the 2 trillion Euro line with the national debt there? because of the banks? Because of spending money they didn’t have. For decades. In the past 40 years Germany had a balanced budget (income=expenses) just once. The other 39 times the expenses were always bigger than the tax income. Of course, the idiots will now scream “raise the taxes!” Check the German taxes, they are criminally high. For everybody.
In 2010 the German budget was 320 billion Euros. 150 of those were for the out of control welfare state. That’s almost 50%. 80 billion were new, additional debt.
But that’s the bank’s fault, right?
The banks are creating money out of thin air? WRONG. The governments are doing it by printing money that’s not backed up any anything other than the hot air of the lying pieces of shit in our parliaments. The governments then destroy that money with nonsense.
How do you think Greece got where they are now? Because of out of control spending. And every industrialized country is heading towards exactly that. Not because of capitalism, but because of the neo-socialist bullshit that has infested all our countries.
These “global protests” are A) pretty small globally, and B) full of lazy non-achievers. Cause the working, tax paying people have to work to feed this trash of society.
AK – I am on your side, but there is nothing “Neo” about socialism. It’s the same thing Phil Donahu was spouting in the 80’s. The Occu-tards just don’t get it. Liberal media and educators are to blame. Government is not the answer, it’s the problem.
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I am not trying to discredit all of what you say, but I really have to stand against when you say that the protests are consisted of lazy non hardworking people. For a start over 50% of the American population agrees with the OWS protests, and for one of the main reasons they are protesting is because of the unfair tax scheme our country has where a CEO of a company can pay less in taxes than their accountant doing their taxes for them and where the government GIVES money to big businesses along with massive tax breaks too. I am aware of the fact of that when a company has more money they can create more jobs, but there are certain lines that shouldnt be crossed. Everything is good in moderation(thats if it is a good idea to begin with)
The protesters are people that have lost their jobs (or not) and dont agree with the taxing/banking system we have in place along with having 1% of the population own apx %60+ of the wealth. Of course they’re are people that are looking for free handouts, there always will be, but there is also a lot of hard working people in a fiscal and economical struggle and they system that is in place currently isnt helping. That is primary what they’re protesting about. Not everyone that doesnt have a job/is protesting is a slacker/freeloader, and if you ask me that opinion sounds really FOX news like to me (and thats coming from a republican raised/educated person)
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Of course it’s the police’s fault. It always is, isn’t it? The idea that members of the occupy crowd, who follow utterly fascist ideas (and who have been told by their masters that killing for their ideas is fine), would start the hostitilies is completely impossible, right?
First hand accounts mean nothing. They always show bias.
So you don’t care about your first amendment rights? What other civil rights are you willing to give up to the government?
First hand accounts mean nothing? So you think it’s the protesters’ fault based on what exactly? That would conform nicely to what you already believe?
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Yes, because those images of flash-bang grenades being thrown at protestors are completely biased, while the statement from OPD saying they weren’t used is to be trusted. Fuck off, lackey.
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The final video is horrendous, a few people go back to help someone who was injured by the police, in which another police officer throws a flashbang into the small group of people trying to assist the downed citizen… I am utterly shocked.
I hope Oakland has a huge monetary surplus because this is going to cost the city police department dearly. The police are there to protect people rights. Their very 1st right of assembly was voided in thies hostility. They have no defense, lets hope they have deep pockets.
[…] zunguzungu: But the most important point, I think, is this: when we left the Oakland Public Library, the last speaker’s last words (after making as clear as possible to the crowd that we were marching to liberate Oscar Grant plaza from massed riot cops, and telling people who couldn’t be down for that to stay at the library) were something along the lines of “No matter what happens, this is only the beginning of a long struggle.” At the time, I was worried. He said that after this march, we should meet at 14th and Broadway every day at six p.m., from now on, and take “whatever space we can.” But before the police tear gassed a non-violent protest, I was not confident that this thing would continue, was worried that today would be not the beginning but the ending. It didn’t seem like much of a strategy, and without the camp to give the movement a center, well, I was worried. “Whatever space we can” is not likely to be much. But now, who knows? I’m ready to occupy some space. So I’ll see you at 14th and Broadway, today at six. […]
Where are we?
‘underacheiver’, what a joke!
First: some people don’t want to get RICH, they just want to have a decent life, and that is getting harder and harder to acheive, and has been near impossible for many who for generations have suffered from our lack of equal education, equal care for all, our corrupt profit driven society, and our promotion (thanks to hugely centralized media – previously illegal practices) of “non-essential” goods and celebs, instead of championing those who teach, heal, farm, build, etc.
Second, have you noticed the huge unemployment numbers lately? Have you any idea how many people are pushed out of homes they’ve lived in for decades due to artificially constructed “property values” – and exorbitant rent that goes to fat asses who sit around somewhere very far away from their so-called property?
Have you got any idea what is happening outside of your little bubble????
this is in response to AK, and ooops, sorry, the term used was actually “non-acheivers” – even more ridiculous!
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I didn’t see one person being violent nor doing anything warranting the police to use “non lethal” force. Then again, the idea of a peaceful protest seems to be long gone. Part of a peaceful protest might be NOT yelling obscenities at the police and threatening them. You let them use their force while you remain calm and peaceful. By responding to their energy, you’re no better than them and you’re just making their day. They finally get to use all their little population control toys on ya. Remain strong yet peaceful my brothers and sisters.
I don’t know what “threats” you think the police are the victims of. Is trying to help people attacked and hurt by police “threatening” the police? And yes, the protestors are better than the police: I don’t see any protestors attacking cops (or anyone else) and putting them in critical condition.
“Peaceful” doesn’t mean having to use language acceptable on US daytime television. If we’re going to use “peaceful” as a litmus test for whether the police can brutally attack unarmed people—which we shouldn’t—we should at least set the bar lower. Really, it’s a testimony to American protestors’ level of commitment to peaceful protest that they haven’t retaliated with actual violence (not just “yelling obscenities”). If Oakland were in Europe…
Stop blaming the victims.
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I am quite stunned that tear gas and rubber bullets were being used on an OWS demonstration. What exactly is a flash grenade??
Also, despite being on the fence about the protests (and protesting in general) I will say one thing: I don’t believe that the demonstrators for OWS are anti-capitalists. No one is promoting communism or socialism, they just want a bit more fairness/justice in the banking/economic/government sector.
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